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OliverBensonMember
Thank you guys, but I think you jinxed me!!! Day 1 of December and I got crushed good and proper -6.39%! Worst trading day so far by quite a margin.
To be honest it’s probably a lesson learned the best way (the hard way) – I was starting to be a bit too pleased with how things were going and getting used to a nice straight upward equity curve.
I just went back to my design stage workings and looked at the backtested daily returns chart which puts it all in perspective (i.e to be expected at least once or twice a year). A walk in the park compared to some outlier days back in 2008.
OliverBensonMemberNovember 2021
MOC Long 1 +4.06%
OliverBensonMemberOctober 2021
MOC Long 1 +4.49%
OliverBensonMemberSeptember 2021
MOC Long 1 0.96%
I’ve been a bit conflicted for a few months on what to do next. My original plan for the MOC system was to develop and launch a long system with 20 x 10% positions which I have done and run since launch in early april. I had always planned to then develop and launch a short MOC and run 20 x 10% on the same capital to maximise the full leverage and to be equally exposed in both directions.
I have developed a short system I am happy with in testing but have held back from launching it. I had a call with Nick a couple of months ago which I had really just intended to be a final sense check before launching the short MOC. However, he talked about how the short side is very different to the long side, which echoes what I have read in a number of other people’s posts on the forum. Primarily that you are much more likely to get divergent results in live trading from the backtest results owing to short orders not getting filled as reliably.
I also noticed that my system only got ‘respectable’ looking results when testing on the full R3000 and when restricted to only R1000 the results are significantly worse, even with the stretch reduced to bring the exposure back up. What I believe Nick said was that your system will do most of its trades in the R1000 as the liquidity is greater there than in the remaining 2000 that make up the rest of the R3000.
Part of me says – “so what if the short system looks a bit weak and will probably underperform the backtest? – it’s ‘free’ leverage you might as well use it…” However that just feels like a cop-out and ‘disrespectful’ to the whole enterprise and all the hardwork and scrutiny that’s gone in thus far.
Therefore I went back and started looking again at my long system’s leverage/position sizing. I have decided to increase from 20 x 10% to 30 x 10% as I am happy with the backtested metrics and daily returns. Having now had the best part of 6 months of live trading, I feel comfortable enough with the resulting increased volatility. I can’t quite muster the balls to go to 40 x 10% so I think this is where i will draw the line for exposure in any one direction.
I now plan to try to find a short system that looks half decent at 10 x 10% on the R1000 and launch it alongside the long, thus utilising the full 400%. In terms of defining ‘decent’ I think if I can find something with a CAR of around 10% and a MaxDD of around -10% I will be happy with that and let the majority of the returns come from the long side.
OliverBensonMemberAugust 2021
MOC Long 1 0.35%
OliverBensonMemberJuly 2021
MOC Long 1 -0.63%
OliverBensonMemberJune 2021
MOC Long 1 -2.33%
A fairly uninspiring month. One big up day followed by lots of small down days and then got massacred by $SPCE earlier this week. I am heartened by how little I am bothered by having a losing month, my only other 2 live months have been green so far.
I have been working on my MOC Short and am just about hapy with it now. Clearly it will be more turbulent than the long system – lets see how we go. Hoping to launch in the next couple of weeks.
OliverBensonMemberWoah! +48.1%!… amazing. What position sizing are you using Tim?
June 15, 2021 at 7:29 am in reply to: IB Update?… ‘bid, ask, and last size quotes shown in shares…..’ #113420OliverBensonMemberOk thanks. I’ve followed the IB prompts to put it in ‘compatability mode’ and placed today’s orders. I will make sure I’m in front of the screen for the last 30 mins of the session and see what happens.
I didn’t intentionally update the TWS version on the VPS. There must be a setting to disable auto updates which I’ll look for.
OliverBensonMemberWoah!!! Amazing results Terry.
OliverBensonMemberMay 2021
MOC Long 1 – 5.64%
OliverBensonMemberHi Trent,
Ok that’s great, thanks very much.
OliverBensonMemberThanks for that Julian. That does all make perfect sense and to be honest is a relief to hear as I was worried I was missing some important special sauce.
I just want to make sure I don’t find myself 6 months or a year down the road with performance that doesn’t align with the backtests, not knowing what the issue is.
Talking of rabbit holes, I have had an idea to adapt the monthly performance table excel sheet into a daily version using the same approach i posted before of adding / subtracting capital based on yesterday’s closing balance. As I see it, at worst it won’t work, I’ll waste some time and I’ll get some excel practice but I’ll let you know if it does.
OliverBensonMemberStill coming up as a smiley face… I give up!
OliverBensonMemberSorry…..looks like somehow I accidentally put a smiley face where i intended to put $8……
should read as follows; “Long sheet. At month end, enter the long only P&L ($ Then put $2 in the deposit column…….”
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