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LEONARDZIRParticipant
Julian, I either don’t take a new position or discard a holding if a 15% gap in last 100 days.
Here are results from 2006 to 2016 single runs
With gap filter:
Car DD Risk parity
16.6 26 0.1
17.8 26 0.2
Without gap filter
17.6 23 0.1
19.5 25 0.2.
I also ran the WTT on Russell 3000 price 1-100 with ranking from 2006 to 2016 single run and got CAR of 10% with 34% drawdown..
Couple of things. No selection bias in rotational momentum.
I am probably based on my test results going to trade it with risk parity of 0.2 and no gap filter in 2017.
LenLEONARDZIRParticipantJulian in the Us momo system I use the 15% gap rule so keeping nvda was a judgement call. Since nvda should not strictly be a holding. At this time.
About your WTT. Nick used the Russell 3000 price 1-10 in his book for statistics. Clearly you are using a different universe if you use WTT. Could you share that universe so I could retest the WTT. So far I have found the WTT pretty inferior in returns to rotational momentum in the US.
LenLEONARDZIRParticipantThanks Craig.
LenLEONARDZIRParticipantNick,
Nvda is going parabolic on weekly charts. It is making great money for US momo. Any thoughts about exit or just wait until it drops out of top stocks?
LenLEONARDZIRParticipantJulian, Said,
I notice that you both are trading multiple systems in the ASX and US. They include WTT,MOC,SWING and momentum rotation. I am curious why neither of you are trading momentum rotation in the US. I found with my own testing and in discussions with Nick that momentum rotation in the US is a much more robust strategy than any stock trending strategy in the US( I have never tested strategies in the ASX). Perhaps your testing results are different from mine?LEONARDZIRParticipantJulian, thank you for letting me know
LEONARDZIRParticipantJulian you keep mentioning a US swing system. Is that your mean reversion system that is not your same day MOC system or is it something different such as a short term breakout system?
LEONARDZIRParticipantJulian, what is the leverage on your US MOC?
LEONARDZIRParticipantBrent, you didn’t mention which market you tested. You certainly have quite a lot of trades so I assume you have IB commission rates and trade the us market perhaps the Russell 1000?
I am surprised you generate so many trades with a 1.5 atr stretchLEONARDZIRParticipantNice month for me.
US MOC. 2.1%
US MOMO. 10.1%November 17, 2016 at 1:17 pm in reply to: Selection bias – how much is too much and general MOC discussion #105820LEONARDZIRParticipantBrett,
Yes expect greater drawdowns than backtesting especially if there is some selection bias but even without. I traded a 15% per position for a brief period In small 50k account which was ok but when I started trading with a substantially larger account I found it too volatile. Nick suggested the 10% figure to me.November 17, 2016 at 3:00 am in reply to: Selection bias – how much is too much and general MOC discussion #105810LEONARDZIRParticipantBrett, not sure how you arrived at 25 positions at 16% but I think you will find in live trading that anything more than 10% per position will be too volatile. I settled at 40 positions at 10% also allowing me to trade more signals.
LEONARDZIRParticipantJulian are you using roc as a filter for individual stock trades or as your index filter?
November 15, 2016 at 3:02 pm in reply to: Selection bias – how much is too much and general MOC discussion #105799LEONARDZIRParticipantI also trade a rotational momentum system that has a ver low correlation with my MOC system.
November 15, 2016 at 3:00 pm in reply to: Selection bias – how much is too much and general MOC discussion #105798LEONARDZIRParticipantMy take. I have been trading an MOC system in the us market since August. If I trade my system with 4:1 leverage in the Russell 1000 I get a CAR of >60%. I started trading that way in August because I thought I had discovered the holy grail. I finally realized that my live testing would not match my backtesting because of selection bias. So I realized that selection bias is a really big deal.
Currently trading the sp500 at a reduced size with 4:1 leverage(40 positions at 10%) with CAR of 43% ,16% did over 10 years. Most importantly I now capture more than 90% of all trades. 56% winning trades, profit factor 1.3. With this system commission drag is very important. I use IB and commission costs are about 30% of profits.
i have also noted a drop off in results over the last 5 years but my system up 22% this year. Hopefully not a change in market structure that is permanent.
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