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June 18, 2021 at 1:48 am #102140KateMoloneyParticipant
Hi all,
Am currently trading ASX Momentum and the US trade long term strategy.
Will look to add more strategies as I create / test my own. Considering adding a 1-2 Chartist systems now that I’m getting the hang of it, and feeling comfortable with the process. Will post future results on this thread.
June 18, 2021 at 2:49 am #113439Nick RadgeKeymasterGreat to hear Kate. Looks like you’re making nice progress.
June 19, 2021 at 4:51 am #113459KateMoloneyParticipantI’m glad I listened to your advice Nick and waited a few months before implementing more strategies.
Have got the swing of STT and the volatility that comes with trading. Have spent time educating myself. Its important to have realistic expectations and not see trading as a “get rich quick” scheme.
July 21, 2021 at 11:08 pm #113463KateMoloneyParticipantI am still putting together my monthly system to track % growth in portfolios etc
BUT this morning something clicked.
I started trading the Trade Long Term strategy in Jan 2021. Within 6 weeks of starting the system drew down 27%. It was uncomfortable at the time, but I stuck it out and followed all the rules. The system recovered a little, but for a period of 3-4 months it swung between a 15% – 10% drawdown.
During the last 2 trading sessions the system has gone from losing money to being profitable 5.8% (for the year).
The valuable lesson is, you can make money very quickly (with one share, or within a couple of trading sessions), but you have to handle the drawdowns and stick around when trading is uncomfortable.
Finally, I constantly remind myself that everything always changes. So todays system that is 5.8% profitable for the year could be in a -10% drawdown tomorrow.
Now, back to learning about coding and looping (which is making me loopy!)
July 22, 2021 at 12:45 am #113605JulianCohenParticipantWelcome to trading Kate….days and days of misery followed by a quick burst of pleasure to hook you back in to the misery again.
Don’t let me put you off though ha ha
July 22, 2021 at 2:10 am #113606KateMoloneyParticipantHaha … I think the key is to be balanced in your mindset. Rather than seeing losses as painful and profits as pleasure, just see trades as business transactions and numbers.
July 22, 2021 at 4:50 am #113607MichaelRodwellMemberI’ve moved from misery to despair. Now I just push the buttons as I should.
July 30, 2021 at 11:22 pm #113610TimothyStricklandMemberIt takes years to separate your emotions from the money, I am not sure I have done it yet but I pull the trigger anyway. Sometimes it is harder to just sit on your hands and let the system do what it will.
August 1, 2021 at 3:47 am #113639KateMoloneyParticipantJuly 2021 Results
ASX Momentum +5.57%
Growth Portfolio -0.5% (Started trading 6 weeks ago, only 30% invested)US Momentum -3.46%
Trade Long Term +17.54%Currently at the looping part of the program. Am struggling with the coding, but determined to stick to this long term and (eventually) master it.
August 2, 2021 at 12:27 am #113651Nick RadgeKeymasterMake sure you reach out to Craig.
August 2, 2021 at 12:57 am #113652JulianCohenParticipantKate if it makes it any easier, a lot of us struggle with looping. I still do. For me I feel that if you understand what it is doing, and even how it is doing it, but you can’t write it then that is good enough. That way you can keep templates of looping for different strategies and know how to apply them without having to really know how to write them.
The only issue with that is that should you ever wish to test something that you don’t have a template for, you’re a bit stuck. But there’s always a ten year old around somewhere to help out!
So as a backstop, that is always there if you really don’t feel comfortable with it.
August 2, 2021 at 2:54 am #113664KateMoloneyParticipantThank you Julian. Good advice.
The coding has been a huge learning curve. I see myself repeating the course a couple of times to maximise the learnings.
August 9, 2021 at 8:45 am #113665KateMoloneyParticipantOk … So thanks to Nicks help, the performance tables are up and running ……
July
ASX Momentum +5.67% (15.77% inception CAGR)
Growth Portfolio -0.35% (Started July 2021)US Momentum -2.52% (Started end of June 2021)
Trade Long Term +7.74% (20.90% inception CAGR)Also reviewed the strategic holds that we bought through a broker. Bought during the COVID crash.
ASX – 39.39% (18 month hold time)
US – 12.38% (18 month hold time – performance dragged down by one share that dropped 70%).It was buying shares through a broker that sparked my interest back to TA trading. The financial planning industry is very regulated, my guy has major issues selling shares at a loss. At one point, I was happy to sell a losing share at $29.70 but he insisted on trying to get $30 for the share to save $100 …
Also, when asked about an exit strategy for the shares, my broker/fin planner has no idea.
This is why I love TA – there are defined entries and exits. You don’t get emotional over shares or losses, you just move onto the next trade and cut the losses short.
The share that dropped 70% showed me how one bad egg can drag down an entire portfolio performance. On the contrary – with the TLT strategy – MRNA is a winning outlier and is dragging the portfolio performance up. Trading to me is all about maths. Fundamental trading through my broker seems more about emotion and “being right” all the time.
August 13, 2021 at 1:41 am #113707KateMoloneyParticipantUpdate.
Nearly finished the coding part of the mentoring program. Had I known about the depth of coding up front I probably wouldn’t have signed up for the course. Now I am starting to enjoy the coding, oddly enough !!
Most days I aim to do about 3 hours on the mentoring program. Sometimes that means staring at the code for 30 minutes trying to think it through .. (I’m blonde, don’t judge me). Then I mix the rest of the day up with trading admin, reading/podcasts/videos (by Nick only) and reading through the forum. In particular I enjoy reading peoples progress journals from the beginning. I want to think through problems in advance where possible. For example, how would I handle a large windfall? How would I handle market conditions such as October 2018? Thinking problems through in advance helps me think of strategic solutions in advance. Then I can be proactive rather than reactive to the market.
Mindset is so important in life, but especially in trading.
MRNA has been erratic the last few weeks. I’ve been surprised at my (lack of) emotional response to big gains and losses with MRNA. This game is long term for me, so perhaps that helps. My weakness is definitely in the coding so I’ve given myself 2 years to learn it properly, even if that means committing 15 – 30 minutes a day to coding ….. over the long run the results will add up.
Aside from trading, I love studying and learning about human behaviour and self mastery. Since 2012 I have studied with Dr John Demartini. He created “The Demartini Method” which is essentially a set of quality questions designed to dissolve your emotional charges.
One aspect of his work is known as “Owning the Traits of the Greats”. Where you essentially own the traits of people you admire/look up too. At the moment I am studying some of the greats in the equities markets. In June I owned Warren Buffett’s traits and noticed an up levelling in our finances within 2-3 weeks of completing it (to the point where I had to increase our financial goals).
One point Nick made, which I love, is that “Everybody gets what they want from the markets”.
Trading is a business and if it is not treated like a business, it is likely either a hobby or opportunity to gamble.August 13, 2021 at 2:19 am #113722Nick RadgeKeymasterThat quote is from Ed Seykota back in the 80’s.
In terms of ongoing study of the greats, I just started reading Larry Hite’s book, The Rule.
No doubt I’ll learn something…
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