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June 3, 2016 at 9:00 pm #101493Nick RadgeKeymaster
If so, can you give me a run down on your setup?
June 4, 2016 at 4:09 am #104112JulianCohenParticipantI am using a Macbook Pro. I have VMWare Fusion as a virtual machine that runs Windows 7 (I need to upgrade the Windows at some point but it works). Amibroker wouldn’t run in 64bit mode but seems quite happy in 32bit although I have nothing to compare it to speed wise.
You can also setup Windows in Bootcamp. Not sure if you know the difference but with Fusion (or Parallels, an alternative software) I can switch between Mac and Windows by swiping desktops so it’s easy to go from one system to the other. Bootcamp involves logging out of Mac OS and booting up in Windows so it’s totally a Windows machine on Mac hardware. I haven’t tried this with Amibroker but you might be able to run the 64bit version if you use bootcamp.
Any other questions…be happy to help.
June 4, 2016 at 12:54 pm #104113LeeDanelloParticipantMost say that Macs are better than PCs, but is that just the software or the machine itself? So if you bought an Apple machine could you wipe the OS and install Windows on it?
June 4, 2016 at 3:24 pm #104121JulianCohenParticipantWell that’s almost what you are doing with boot camp. It allows you to run Windows completely on a Mac, but you have the choice of which OS you want to run. I mainly use Mac as I do a lot of photography and Adobe Photoshop and other programs run really well on Mcs, plus the screen beautiful.
June 5, 2016 at 2:27 am #104122LeeDanelloParticipantJulian Cohen wrote:Well that’s almost what you are doing with boot camp. It allows you to run Windows completely on a Mac, but you have the choice of which OS you want to run. I mainly use Mac as I do a lot of photography and Adobe Photoshop and other programs run really well on Mcs, plus the screen beautiful.So is that a dual boot?
I think Trent said that he ran his as a virtual machine which means you have to boot into the Mac enviroment and was only allocated 2GB.
https://www.thechartist.com.au/Forum/discussion/265-amibroker-on-mac-data.html#746David Brown wrote “For example, in Virtual Box a Windows 10 64Bit virtual machine running a 20 year backtest using the Premium Data Alpha PDU database would take about
20 mins. Now the same test takes about 6 mins. Just running an exploration takes a few seconds. The Windows virtual machine is configured for 2 CPUS and 4GB RAM.”Good luck when he does a Monte Carlo. That will take him days.
June 5, 2016 at 2:50 am #104123TrentRothallParticipantI am not too sure on my exact details. But I was using parallels like I said and I think It is allocated 1 or 2 GB total for running a windows computer basically. So AB backtests were very slow. I felt like I upgraded to a super computer after moving to a windows laptop
June 5, 2016 at 11:27 am #104114AnonymousInactiveI have a MacBook Pro and run Parallels (virtual machine) for Windows, currently Windows 7, 16GB RAM and allocated 4GB to Windows.
64bit Amibroker.
It is a pleasure running Windows on the Mac, I have not tried it via Bootcamp.
I have also not tried extensive backtests and MC yet, so will see how that performs when the time comes, I can allocate more RAM to Windows if need be.June 5, 2016 at 1:50 pm #104125JulianCohenParticipantI couldn’t run the 64bit version of Amibroker on my system. I’m thinking about getting a Windows machine and running everything on that…all round it has to be a better bet as I have to start MC testing soon and that’s gonna be slooooow.
I assume RAM is the important thing would that be correct?
June 5, 2016 at 9:32 pm #104130SaidBitarMemberRAMS are important since the universe that you are testing on is uploaded to the ram and this makes it super fast in comparison to reading from the hard drive, but this is one run on one stock. The nice thing about amibroker is that it supports multi threading thus means it can run multiple operations at the same time and here where the number of cores play important role.
The problem with virtual box or virmware or all from this nature is that you don’t have access to the full power of your machine.
June 6, 2016 at 6:39 am #104131JulianCohenParticipantYes I’m going to get a Dell XPS 13…I have a friend in the States that runs wirecutter.com which is a site for testing products and he strongly endorses it, as well as Nick, so I’m going to have to bite the bullet and get one
June 6, 2016 at 11:04 pm #104115AnonymousInactiveHi Nick
I run a mac using windows parallel approx price of software $180 and it has allowed me to run the 64. it was a little tricky at first tho as you know I’m not that great with computers but find it great now and very fast
any other Question give me a callJune 7, 2016 at 4:15 am #104116ChrisViridesMemberRegarding Amibroker Performance tips:
https://www.amibroker.com/guide/x_performance.htmlIn short, having lots of ram is great but you do get to a point of diminishing returns. Having a good ssd and CPU are very important
Not sure about Bootcamp, but running a virtual machine means you need alot of ram, as you are running both operating systems, and you also get a performance hit, as both operating systems are sharing all the resources, cpu, screen, ram, disks.
Julien, have you considered the MS Surface Book?
June 21, 2016 at 4:58 am #104117JulianCohenParticipantSorry Paul, I only just saw your post.
I changed my settings on Fusion to allow 4 threads and 8 GB of RAM to the virtual machine. As long as I don’t try and run anything like Photoshop and leave the MacBook Pro alone to run the MCS, I can get 1000 runs on the Russell 1000 from 2010-2016 on a 25% trade skipping done in an hour and a half. I’m quite happy with that.
I don’t think it’s worth my while to get a Windows machine just to run Monte Carlos faster, so I’ll keep going as is for the moment.
June 21, 2016 at 6:18 am #104390LeeDanelloParticipantJulian Cohen wrote:Sorry Paul, I only just saw your post.I changed my settings on Fusion to allow 4 threads and 8 GB of RAM to the virtual machine. As long as I don’t try and run anything like Photoshop and leave the MacBook Pro alone to run the MCS, I can get 1000 runs on the Russell 1000 from 2010-2016 on a 25% trade skipping done in an hour and a half. I’m quite happy with that.
I don’t think it’s worth my while to get a Windows machine just to run Monte Carlos faster, so I’ll keep going as is for the moment.
That speed is about par for the course
June 22, 2016 at 7:18 am #104393JulianCohenParticipantOK that’s good to know…BTW how do you attach part of a recent thread to your answer?
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